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I'm your host, Vance Bradford, and our special guest today is Mr. Ya’Ke. How're you doing, sir?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=1.0,11.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: I'm good. How you doing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=11.0,12.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Good. Nice meeting you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=12.0,13.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Nice meeting you as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=13.0,13.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Yes sir! You mind we just jump into this interview, man?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=13.0,16.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Not at all. Let's do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=16.0,17.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: All right. All right. Well, I'll tell you what, tell us a little bit about your background. What we got going here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=17.0,22.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Well, I was born– I actually wasn't born in San Antonio. I always say I was born in San Antonio, but I wasn’t. I was born in Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri, but I've lived here–","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=22.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=29.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Yeah, my dad was in the military. But I've lived here for so long that I always just say I was born here. Because that's all I remember is just being a kid here in San Antonio.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=30.0,39.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: My story’s the same, Ya’Ke. My dad was in the military at Fort Leonard Wood. That's where I finished high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=39.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Oh, wow!–","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=45.0,46.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Waynesville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=46.0,46.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: –See, I don’t even remember Fort Leonard Wood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=46.0,46.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: You don't remember Fort Leonard–? Oh, you lucky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=46.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Mutual laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=49.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: What? There’s nothin’ there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=51.0,52.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Yeah– psssh. You sound like me, man. I was born in Fort Polk, Louisiana. I don't remember nothing about that. Soon as I was born, my folks left. They left. So I don't know. Yours left Leonard Wood?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=52.0,64.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: They left, they left, and then we– we went overseas. I don't remember any of that, I just remember San Antonio. But yeah, so I grew up, really, here on the East Side of San Antonio. I went to Jeff Davis [Junior High School], went to Sam Houston [High School]. Yeah. And then I even went to Incarnate Word University [sic] here. Um, so I'm San Antonio, you know, bred and I love it, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=64.0,83.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: That’s good. That’s good. So– so you went to Jeff Davis. 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And then the high school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=92.0,93.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Sam Houston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=93.0,94.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Sam Houston. And– and further education where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=94.0,97.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Incarnate Word, and then I ended up getting my MFA [Master of Fine Arts] at UT [University of Texas] Austin. And I teach there now, actually. So I live in Austin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=97.0,105.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: In Austin at UT? Okay. Okay. Great man. How's it- how you like being at UT?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=105.0,111.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: I like it a lot. I mean, it's my alma mater. I was at UT Arlington for the past eight years. Um, and I just love teaching: one, because it keeps you fresh, you know, and two, you just learn new technologies, you learn new things every day because you’re having to do it with your students. But yeah, I like it a lot, you know. I do. I love it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=111.0,128.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Okay. Okay. So do you have a role model in this– in this business here? Or– or someone you look up to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=128.0,135.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: M– many role models, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=135.0,137.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Many? Okay–","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=137.0,137.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: I mean I–","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=137.0,138.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: –talk to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=138.0,138.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: –you know, obviously, I'm a huge Spike Lee fan. I love his work. I think, you know, it was him and, really, John Singleton, who made me want to become a filmmaker. And probably more so John Singleton, because “Boyz n the Hood” came out in ‘91, I was 11 years old at that time. And just seeing that film and seeing the impact that that film had on the people that watched it, and just society as a whole, it made me want to, you know, pick up a camera and make movies. Which was something that I didn't even know was possible. I didn't know people made films. I didn't know there was a director, and a- you know, cinematographer and a whole crew. I didn't even know how that was done. I actually thought that there were people behind the screen. When I would go see movies, I thought everybody was like behind the screen, you know what I mean? But once I saw that film, I started, like, studying the craft and really getting into filmmaking. And I made my first movie at 15, while I was a student at Sam Houston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=138.0,184.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Wow, what was that– what was that? Can we go back and check that one out?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=184.0,187.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: What was that movie? It was called “A Cry for Help.” And it’s interesting, because what I used to make, to be honest with you, were movies that were really based on the movies that I loved. So you would see a lot of “Boyz n the Hood” and “New Jack City” and “Straight out of Brooklyn” and “Do the Right Thing.” You would see a lot of those influences in my films, and, really, I would probably steal scenes from those things as well because I didn't know any better. And then slowly, I started to become more sophisticated and understand, again, “Oh, wait a minute, you can write a script.” And even if you're not writing a script, you can have people improv, and you can set scenes up. Because that's what we used to do is my mom would make spaghetti, we would come to my house on the weekends, and I would just have my friends–they were all my actors–and I would set the scene up and then just let them go. And I made like four films while I was at Sam Houston, and I've been doing it ever since. I think I’ve made a film– maybe a year, every year ever since I was 15.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=187.0,238.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=238.0,238.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Or at least every other year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=238.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Okay, okay. Mr. Ya’Ke, that's impressive. And now– now you're teaching man. So– [transition] –you’re spreading your– your wealth and your knowledge, you know, that's great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=240.0,249.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=249.0,250.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Enjoy that. Okay, okay. So– so pretty much you're doing what you envisioned, huh? [Inaudible] you living your dream?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=250.0,257.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: I am! You know, it's interesting, I never really thought that I would be a professor. You know, I didn't go– a lot of people think that you go to get your MFA to become a professor, but I didn't do that. I went to get my MFA because I wanted to just be a good filmmaker and I wanted to be the best filmmaker that I could be. And I felt like my education at Incarnate Word had somewhat prepared me, but there were so many things that I needed to know that I had didn't know. So I felt like I needed to go learn those in a film school. And then, literally, before I graduated from film school, they offered me a job to come and teach. And I was hesitant, honestly, ‘cause I was like, “Is this really what I want to do?” I don't know if I want to be in a university setting. I want to go out and just make movies.” So I kind of turned that down and then about six months later, I came back and I actually took the job. And I realized something: that, one, although I always said I didn't want to teach or I was unsure about it, I was always teaching. I was always the one in the editing room–even when I was at Incarnate Word–five, six o'clock in the morning, like, showing my classmates how to do something. They were calling me on the phone, “Hey, I'm having issues with my script” or “I don't know how to use Final Cut Pro” or “The machine is not actin’ right,” and I would come out of my dorm room, drag myself to the editing room, and show them how to do things. And so I realized that I had been teaching, really, my whole life and just– I never called it that. And so I felt like it was just a natural progression for me to teach and, again, still make films, and that's what I'm doing now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=257.0,339.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Okay. Okay, when you say that– and that's what you're doing now, like, so what type of films are you making now? What– can you enlighten us?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=339.0,349.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: [Laughs] It’s so hard to classify, but I call them social dramas. You know, I make films about current events, or films about people that I know or things that I feel like have affected me. So my latest film is called “The Beginning and Ending of Everything.” It's a– it’s a web drama, [to the camera] you can check it out on Facebook and YouTube. [To Vance Bradford:] But it's about a woman who gets out of prison and her struggle to readjust to life on the outside, while also searching for the child that she left behind when she went in. And, again, it's loosely based on my sister's life and other people that I know that have been in and out of the system, and sort of watching their struggle to readjust once they get out and, you know, get a job and just sort of figure things out and put their lives back together. And so I wanted to make a film based upon that, and I’ve made films about some of everything. I have a film about Hurricane Katrina. I have a film about a family called “Wolf,” it's about a family that discovers their son was molested by their pastor, and the fallout from that and how they dealt with that and the betrayal. I’ve made films about PTSD [Post-traumatic stress disorder]. But really all of my films are just about social issues and things that I feel like we, as a society, don't talk about, we shy away from those conversations, and I make films with the goal of actually sparking that conversations and making people comfortable with having those conversations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=349.0,424.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Wow. Tight. Okay, okay. I mean, your story seems so smooth and flowing, but tell me about some of your challenges, man. I know, you know, being a Black man in the film industry, you know, what kind of challenges did you face?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=424.0,441.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: I mean, you know, did face, are facing, is a– is a better way to put it. I mean, I think, one being a filmmaker, just in general–even when you're not a person of color–is difficult. Right now, we are saturated, I mean, super saturated with– or oversaturated, I should say, with content. Everybody that wants to pick up a camera can now pick up a camera and make a film. And so now if you just go to YouTube, you can see thousands upon– maybe millions of movies made by people who call themselves “filmmakers.” And I love that, I love the idea that we can all get our stories out there, but also what it does is it makes it more difficult for your work to actually rise to the top, because now people have to sift through a lot of stuff that may or may not be good in order to get to your stuff. And so, you know, it's just the– it's that struggle of getting your stuff out there. It's also that struggle of– I just told you what kind of films I'm making. Honestly, people aren't necessarily running to the theaters to watch those types of movies. And so whenever I sit in a room with a potential distributor or investor or a production company of some sort, there's always that– that question, like, “Okay, so who's gonna come see it and how am I gonna make my money back?” And so that's sort of been a very, very difficult challenge for me, and a difficult thing to maneuver because I don't want to lose my voice, yet I understand that this is also a business. And I understand that before somebody writes you a check, they want to know how they gonna, you know, get their money back. And so, you know, just sort of figuring that out and navigating that has been a little difficult. And then just, like you said, I think being a person of color is hard. You know, there's not many of us who are able to greenlight movies, there's not many of us who are able to finance movies. Actually, I think there's more of us who can finance movies than we are, that's a whole ‘nother conversation. But, you know, we are not the gatekeepers. We are not the presidents of Paramount and, you know, Univer– or whatever picture you can come up with, whatever company, we're not those presidents of those companies. And so, to get your work, not only in the room, but to sell it in the room, and to convince somebody who doesn't understand your struggle and who thinks they understand who you are; you know, I've been in rooms when people tell me, “Well, that's not how Black people talk” or  “That's not how we react,” and these are white people. And I always get confused, like, “How do you know how I talk or how would I react to something? You're not me.” But again, they're the gatekeepers, and they have this idea of what we are and who we are. And when you present something that is contrary to what they believe, again, it makes it more difficult to get that work out there. So I mean, it's a– it’s a constant struggle, but that's what we do: we just endure because we love our work. We believe we have something to say. We believe that our work, at some point, will find its audience, and that we were put on this earth to be storytellers, and so that's what we do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=441.0,596.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: My man. I like that, though. I like that. That's what we do, is endure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=596.0,599.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: It’s what we do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=599.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Yes sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=600.0,601.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: We don’t have a choice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=601.0,601.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: I like that.\n\n[Mutual laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=601.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: You right about that, brother. That's good. Okay, just to switch up a little bit, you know what I mean, you know, ‘cause you've given us a wealth of information here. Let's lighten it up a little bit. So San Antonio born, raised– oh, well– well, lived here most of your life. So tell me what you like most about San Antonio.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=604.0,624.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: You know, it's interesting because– I'm– I’mma be honest. Growing up here, I was like, “I don't know if I want to come back.” And maybe that's just what we all say, you know, you– you grew up in a place and you’re like, “I want to get as far away from that place as possible.” But the more I come back here, I'm starting to appreciate, like, more of the culture. I'm really starting to appreciate, you know, there's a– it’s a very small art community here, but I feel like they're– they're sort of moving up, and they're trying to sort of expand and get their work out there. And I'm starting to see more of that, and I appreciate that. I think every film– I shouldn't say every film I’ve shot, but 85% of the work that I make, I shoot here. Even when I wa’n’t livin’ here, I was always coming back to shoot here because whenever I'm writing, I'm thinking of “wait a minute, this happened on this street'' or “this happened in this type of house” or “this is the kind of person that this was,” and I feel like that person is authentically here in San Antonio. And so I just love the city. I love coming back here. My mom's here, a lot of my family and friends are here. And I just love you know, being here, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=624.0,683.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Big question: tell the TAAN- TAAN viewing audience, you a [San Antonio] Spur [sic] fan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=683.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Uh. [groans]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=690.0,693.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Be honest. Hey, we good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=693.0,694.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: I'm not a– I'm not a– put it like this, I am not a not a Spurs fan, but I'm just not a basketball fan. I don’t watch basketball.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=694.0,700.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Okay, there you go. Okay, that's fair enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=700.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: But when the Spurs win, I win. That’s– I'm gonna say that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=701.0,703.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: There you–\n\n[Mutual laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=703.0,706.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: That's fair enough. That's fair enough. Okay, Mr. Ya’Ke, what– what would you say would be your biggest contribution to the city here in San Antonio?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=706.0,717.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: I mean, I think, you know, again, there are a lot of filmmakers here–so to take nothing away from them–but I feel like I sort of showcase a part of the city that sometimes gets overlooked. You know, I shoot here on the East Side. I'm really, again, showing stories about, like, real people, people who are struggling with certain things, people who come from a very specific environment, a very specific neighborhood. And I think getting those stories out there is key. I think other people are doing that as well, but I think, you know, that's a contribution that I have given to the city. It’s, like, really putting us on the map and showing our work and our city to other people who sometimes forget about San Antonio and Texas in general. You know, it's like, “Who wants to shoot in San Antonio? Who shoot in–.” Well, there's– there's stuff here, and there's people here and there’s culture here. And I think there's things here that we can put on screen and expose this city to a whole world that doesn't, you know, necessarily know anything about it but the Riverwalk. You know, and so I showcase things other than the Riverwalk. And not saying other people don't do that, but I've been doing it for a very, very, very long time. So I think I've, you know, contributed that to the city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=717.0,784.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Great. Now, I'm sure you– in listening to you, you probably elaborated on this, but we want to do this more directly. And as African Americans, why did you feel– I mean, ‘cause you're doing it– is why do you feel it's important for us to tell our story?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=784.0,806.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Well, because for so long, our stories have been told by someone else. And honestly, if you don't know me, if you don't understand me, if you are looking at me from an outsider's point of view, then you're only telling half of my st– not even half, you're only telling a portion of my story. Because you really don't understand, like, my intimate struggles, you really don't understand who I am, you don't understand what's going on in my head. And I think for so long, as people of color, we've had people who don't understand us putting our stories on screen, which then perpetuates stereotypes, which then makes other people believe certain things about us, which are not true. And so I think it's important for us, even if we showcase the bad– ’cause my films are rough. But I'm constantly trying to sort of craft it in this idea of “yep, this thing is what's happening, this thing is bad, but there's a reason why these things are happening.” And then I shoot it up to a larger sort of thing when I'm speaking about society, and how a lot of things that are happening in society cause us to do certain things, or force us to live a certain way sometimes. And I think it's important for us to tell that story because other people look at us and say, “Well, they just want to be that way” or “They just want to do that.” But no we don't. You know, sometimes you have to deal, you know, and live with the cards you've been dealt, and figure out a way to just maneuver certain things. And so, for me, I think it's important that we tell those stories that showcase us and all our humanity, that showcase us and our beauty and our mess ups. Because we're very complex people, and to show me as one thing is not showing the fullness of who I am, you know, and I think only a person of color really can understand the fullness of being a person of color.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=806.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Wow, great man. Hey, I'm just sitting here. I mean, you should see me, it’s just, you know– because, you know– what I want to say is I hope that, you know, you come and share some of that– all that wealth and knowledge that you have with us here at TAAN TV, man, ‘cause, you know, you could be a great asset just– just talking to us and showing us and giving us–","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=900.0,921.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=921.0,921.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Yes, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=921.0,922.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: I'm– I’m always available for anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=922.0,924.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: I appreciate it, man. I mean– I mean, this– our interview is almost over, man, and we could go on and on listening to you, you know, but to conclude it, though, is there any– let me say, this what I like to say is any kind of nuggets you'd like to put out there for us? Like, say, some young aspiring filmmakers that want to get into this business or something, you can give them a little, just quick little nugget or something like that. And then tell us how we can find you or your website, or whatever you want to do. Tell us how we can find you and keep up with you, man. I want to keep following you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=924.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Well, you know, my– my number one nugget is to just keep doing it. You know, I mean, I think people don't really understand how difficult it is, one, to do almost anything, but also, again, to be a filmmaker is very difficult. It comes with so much rejection. I get stacks and stacks and stacks of no’s. I think yesterday, I got, like, four rejection letters from either festivals or grants that I had applied to, but it's a matter of just staying in the game and keep doing it. Because, again, you believe so deep, deep, deep down in your heart that this is what you're meant to do, that it doesn't matter if anybody says “no,” that you're going to continue to tell yourself “yes” until you can get the things that you need. And so I think it's a matter of enduring to the end. And then also, you know, study your craft. I think a lot of times, again, we just pick up cameras and we wanna just start shooting. But in my opinion, even if it's not in a film school, get a community of people, gather people, make films on the weekends, and just keep learning, study movies, and just keep learning from one another and learning from the greats until you become the best that you can be. Don't just, you know, half-do things, because I see a lot of that. I sit on a lot of film festival juries and panels, and sometimes I feel like I'm watching movies that were thrown together sometimes. And it's not that the intentions aren't right, but it's just that these people haven't really studied the craft and the art of film. And so study it, if you want to do something, be the best that you can be at it, and just stick in the game, you know. And to find me, you know, you can find me on Facebook, you can find me on Twitter, you can find me on YouTube. My web series is literally– I'm streaming right now on YouTube and on Facebook. It's called “The Beginning and Ending of Everything.” My feature “Wolf” is on Amazon Prime, as well as KweiliTV.com, and then the web series will be on Amazon very, very soon. We're actually working out the details on that right now. Um, but yeah, so just stay in, you know, in the loop with me because I'm–","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=960.0,1072.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: How we–","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=1072.0,1073.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: –constantly doing something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=1073.0,1073.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: –find you on– on Facebook? What– ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=1073.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Oh, my tag is yake80, and then I have a business page, Exodus Filmworks. And then same thing on Twitter, Yake80, Ya’Ke Filmmaker. Find me on IG, and just connect with me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=1076.0,1087.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: There we go. We need to, baby.\n\n[Mutual laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=1087.0,1091.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Mr. Ya’Ke, man, it was a great interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=1091.0,1093.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ya'Ke Smith: Appreciate it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=1093.0,1094.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392/transcript/68363/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vance Bradford: Yes, sir. Well, TAAN TV, it’s been another great episode of 300 Voices in 300 Days. I'm your host, Vance Bradford, and our special guest, Mr. Ya’Ke.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/130722/file/244392#t=1094.0,1108.82133"}]}]}]}