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I'm your host, Tyrone Darden, and again, we're covering 300 Voices over 300 Days. We’re here with our former city councilman for District Two, Alan Warrick. He has a lot to bring to the table in regards to the history of San Antonio over these past 300 years, and most recently, over the last several decades with his family and himself. And so we're going to get through a lot of information to share with you guys because I know you don't know a lot of this rich history that you have. So right now, we gonna get right into it. Go ahead and tell us who you are, you personally, and what your roots are in San Antonio, Texas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=3.0,39.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Sure. I’m Alan Warrick, former city councilman in District Two for the last three years. But I'm a CEO of a nonprofit organization that provides jobs for people with disabilities throughout the state of Texas called World Technical Services that was founded in San Antonio in 1982. I took over that organization in 2008. So we've been doing a lot of work throughout the state to help people with disabilities get back on track and get back into the workforce. One of the things that most people don't know is that my family has been in the city since right after slavery. So a little bit over 150 years. We started from Fredericksburg [Texas], on my mother's side, and came down to my aunt, my mother's father's side, Gonzales [Texas]. So there's a lot of ties into the near towns right around San Antonio about a hundred mile radius. We have a lot of family in Luling and Lockhart and other towns, but really been on the East Side of San Antonio since right after slavery, setting up in Ellis Alley, then to Denver Heights, then a little bit of Dignowity Hill. And then I grew up in Dignowity Hill.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=39.0,109.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: Excellent. So– and we said earlier that Alan was one of our council people here in District Two. And a lot of people don't know the rich history when it comes to San Antonio, how politics work. And even, like I mentioned earlier, his grandfather, his father, even his mother, were deeply deeply involved in those politics. If you could– because I know you're young– I know you have a lot of good insight on things that were– have been going on and shaking loose. Give us some insight on your grandfather, Jim Scott, and even your father, your mother how they were as judges and in– in the college district and things like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=109.0,149.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Sure. Well, my grandfather was really like the Charlie Bellinger of his time. So he– he was a lot of the behind the scenes politics as far as securing the African American community as far as votes and support for candidates of all races that– whether it's Henry B. Gonzalez, all the way to Nelson Wolff, to various candidates all the way up to Julian Castro. So Castro's mayoral win was the last campaign that my grandfather worked on, but pretty much a career in politics from about the mid 60s all the way to 2009. So it's really a rich legacy. He's touched so many different types of races, but pretty much anyone that needed support of the African American community, the East Side community, met with my grandfather to garner that support, and other leaders like Claude Black and– and E. Thurman Walker, [inaudible]. But he ran through a lot of generations, helping. My mother and father were both political. Father was appointed through the municipal courts through Henry Cisneros, who they helped get elected to be the first Hispanic mayor in– in over 100 years in San Antonio. And then my mother was the first African American to win county-wide for The Alamo Community College District, because that was before there were single member districts in the community colleges and that was in 1986. So it's really a deep learning scene in politics. And then also my grandfather ran for the state legislature in 1974. So he lost on a runoff for that election. So he's– he had never been elected. I think he just decided to stay behind the scenes after that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=149.0,253.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: Excellent. And so that's– we gonna get back to the politics. We're gonna transition real quick into some economic development. You mentioned earlier that you were the CEO of a company here locally. And I remember when you were running, you spoke on, you know, having the business in the core East Side and having to move. But then, you know, your goal as a council person was to create these opportunities for small business and business alike to be able to come back into the district. Going back to you and your business you’re running now, the different strides you made as a council person, as elected official, but even back to your grandfather, and the economic development impact he had fo– made for African Americans, as well as the East Side as a whole, give us a little insight on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=253.0,299.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Sure, yeah, it was actually a tough decision moving our business from the East Side. So we had been on WW White Road for over 30 years. And now we're over on Bandera close to [Interstate] 410, bordering on Leon Valley and San Antonio. And it was hard to move that far because one, I didn't want to have to commute all the way over there. But two, having the roots in the community and keeping the business community were important to me. But again, it wasn't a purchase, it was just a five year lease agreement with hopes of moving back to the East Side after that. And it's actually looking pretty prominent that we– we’re going to be moving the business back to the East Side with the purchase of a property in order to develop that property and build our new headquarters. So that's really something that's beneficial over these last couple years. But it's also sad that we weren't able to stay for that time period. So from 2012 to 2017, we’ve been on the near West Side, or mid-central West Side. The economic development, again, 30 other businesses have moved to the east side in the last couple of years, which is a great thing, but I think it's about the types of businesses. I think we need more tech firms, we need more of the types of firms that you see just outside of downtown in other parts of the city coming to the East Side. Some more law firms, more insurance companies, more companies that provide services for folks that live in the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=299.0,383.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: Excellent. And let’s tie that in to– this is what's going on now. But 30-40 years ago, you know, I know your grandfather was into, you know, he had the gas station, and he had, you know, other properties that he was developing, and just helping other business people, you know, get entrenched into the community. You know, your vision often comes from your past. And that's what we're talking about here. We're talking about African American history here in San Antonio. But you could speak to that personally, because you have that legacy. Let's go back, and– and what do you remember and– and even before you were born, well– what were the stories they kind of remind you of, of what took place back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=383.0,419.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Sure. I mean, if you look at St. Paul square, it was the hub of African American business activity. Along commerce street, you couldn't find a business that wasn't an African American owned business. So it was a very significant part of our city, whether it was a dry cleaners, a barber shop, a restaurant. My grandfather owned the hotel over there, he owned the insurance business, as well as multiple gas stations on the East Side of San Antonio. So but that was where it all is. And of course, there were changes in the– in the decades. But it looks like it's transitioning back to that. We still have some ownership from outside of East Side companies, but I think that's going to happen with any downtown. I think we have to pick our hubs and focus on these areas that we still have maintained ownership of. And there's really a huge deal of opportunity on the East Side of San Antonio. And that's why people are noticing and moving their businesses to– to the East Side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=419.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: Excellent. So let’s go back to politics. So again, we've said it several times. You are a city councilperson. And although your grandfather only ran that one time and didn’t win, lost in the runoff, your mother was elected, your father was appointed, and I believe your sister is a– is a lobbyist?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=480.0,496.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Yes, she is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=496.0,497.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: So there's a lot going on. During your time– and again, I kinda wanna go parallel with present and past– during your time, we had an African American city councilperson, which was you. We had– we have an African American state representative for this area, which is Barbara Gervin Hawkins. Laura Thompson, and then Ruth Jones McClendon was in that position for so long. We have our school board rep who is James Howard. And then we also have our first African American county commissioner in the state and– I'm sorry, in the– in the county for precinct four, who [inaudible] as well, Tommy Calvert. Looking at that– that structure of power within the African American community so– so concentrated, and for the most part, the hysteric– historic areas, where African Americans live and congregate, how did you see or can you see that as a positive thing, as a as a catalytic thing, as a thing that can help move us forward? And you’re going back to when, you know, your grandfather, you had the G.J. Suttons and– and the Claude Blacks and those types of people with a similar power structure. And– and black folks were– were thriving, you know, they were doing good. I mean, your mother had a pharmacy that– that she was doing very well. H– you know, then and now, what can we do to, I guess, replicate that now that we have those pieces in place? And what do you think is going to be the catalyst to move forward?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=497.0,585.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: I think it's an active choice. Right now folks are– have so many choices to live anywhere in San Antonio. Previously, they didn't have a choice. So now it's really claiming the community as ours. Not just ours on Sundays, you know, where– the place where we worship and may go out to eat afterwards, but the place where we actually want to live and raise our families. And because there's beautiful homes that a lot of people are taking advantage for– of their beautiful places to bring our businesses. So that whole live-work-and-play aspect– when it's not a choice– makes it very difficult because our city is very spread out. And we probably have, you know, faster growing African American populations outside of the city. If you look at New Braunfels, Schertz, Cibolo, Live Oak, Converse– that's where the black community, traditionally, from San Antonio has moved to. Now the military community is– is a large African American population as well, but their roots aren't necessarily ingrained in the East Side. So to– to have folks actually make an active choice to come to the East Side as African Americans is really what it's going to take because we have so many choices and our city, so rich and diverse, and there's so many great neighborhoods throughout the entire region. It's going to be difficult to– to change that mindset. But I think that's the– the real opportunity that we have to really claim this downtown area, because the developments coming. And if you look at East Austin, the history is still there, but African Americans aren't there anymore, because they've been priced out of that community. So how do we maintain it for the African Americans that are here and for new African American populations that want to come back or after they come back from college or working in another city?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=585.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: So– so you said two things. It kind of made me move on to the next topic– it’s all connected. But you said, you know, we have to bring homes, that certain people are taking advantage of. And then you kind of hinted, that piece of it, with being priced out, and it– kind of made me think about gentrification. And so being a councilperson, you were, you know, in the thick of those conversations, and you were able to kind of hear the pleas of developers and– and kind of make, you know, your vote, yea or nay or whatever one. Moving forward on development, with that gentrification piece, and– and with us trying to highlight the African American past, present, and hopefully our future here in San Antonio, what– what's your feel? What's your take on the gentrification piece? And how does that apply to the progress of the African Americans moving forward here in San Antonio?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=692.0,747.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Well it can go either of two ways. It hasn't really turned the corner like it has in Houston or Austin or Dallas, or you know, or Brooklyn, areas where they had these conversations 10 or 15 years ago, but they weren't really listening to the folks in the community. At the time their– the development was happening so quickly, that they didn't have time to listen. We have time to listen here in San Antonio. And we have to look at these opportunities where people call it economic development. But really, it's a tough situation. And that's in with the Airbnb’s [vacation rental business]. Looking at Austin, looking at Los Angeles, you can get multiple loans for one property– one business loan, one housing loan– which would drive up the value of the land if you have Airbnb property on your site. Because you're generating, you know, thousands of dollars a month, potentially, depending on how many rooms or units you have operating. And that's– if your neighbor's just a single-family home that doesn't have Airbnb, they're gonna have to get one to maintain those property taxes, or else they're going to be priced out of the community. And with the proximity to downtown, with the proximity to the Alamodome and the AT\u0026T Center [currently the Frost Bank Center], I see that as a potential threat for folks that have been in the community for a long time, that may not have the funds to improve on their households. So they may be forced to sell because the property taxes get– get so steep. I mean, I'm looking at two-bedroom, two-bath homes, that are on the market for over $300,000 and a couple, you know, 78202, 78208 [zipcodes], some over half a million dollars. So it's really three– I mean, still less than 3000 square feet. And that's totally unheard of for the near East Side of San Antonio. So it's– it’s really one of those scenarios where it's not Alamo Heights yet, but it's the fastest growing and property value increase. And Alamo Heights was always expensive, the East Side wasn’t expensive like this five years ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=747.0,881.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: So, you know– and me and you have been exposed for– for the most part, the same people, to Mr. [Charles] Williams and– and Arthur Lewis [?] and those type of guys in the community. And– and for– for me, I listen to them and they say we should, you know, you know, put these groups together and start investing and– and I don't know if that's what we need to do or not. I know that's what they're saying and maybe what they're trying to do. But– but again, you– you have an insider, kind of, look from the past, because you did have your grandfather and, you know, the people that he surrounded himself with. What did they do back then to sustain prosperity, to– to push growth in– in African American communities 40 years ago, 60 years ago?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=881.0,927.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Well, I think with the past, you have to look at communication. The Black newspaper was a lot stronger, the Black radio stations as well. So you had a consolidated message. Now, even if we were to get a Black radio station, so much internet radio stations, Pandora, different things that are, you know, same thing with TV, and the newspaper, it makes it difficult to get that message out to as many people as possible. Whereas you knew that somebody was either going to see it at church or see it at their local convenience store or local place where– where the barber shop, and it was easy to get a message out. Right now. It's hard– hard to get that communication. So we have to find a way to communicate with each other in order to build that solidarity that they had in the past, I think it was a lot easier to have the community on one accord. And now that's– that's one of the challenges. But I mean, again, there's so much more information out there as well that allows the community to be more informed if they want to be. And I think that's also the issue, whether the community actually wants to make these changes or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=927.0,992.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: Excellent. So it's all good. It's all related. So we're gonna transition back, you know, you have so much rich history, and I definitely want to speak on that. I want people to hear about it as well. So we mentioned your mother, and first county-wide elected African American to– to the– the board for the Alamo Colleges. Then I know she went on and pursued numerous degrees. I know she opened her own pharmacy, and even now, and congra– let her know congratulations, she's now at Stillman?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=992.0,1031.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1031.0,1031.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: Okay. At Stillman College, a African American– HBCU [Historically Black Colleges and Universities] ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1031.0,1034.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1034.0,1035.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: So she's doing big things. But let's go back to the– the pharmacy piece. So, you know, I've been here my whole life. You were born– born here as well. And, you know, a lot of businesses that I see or restaurants– you know, you have your barber shops. For the most part, you don't see those– those professional type level businesses, like your mother had, that pharmacy, where she had it right on the East Side. I remember helping Leticia Van de Putte with her campaign. And one of the things that she communicated was that, you know, she didn’t start off as a politician. You know, she was a, you know, a person in the community. She went and got an education, she came back and she opened her– her own pharmacy. And then she said she was a buying partner with your mother. So your mother was on the East Side, and she was on the West Side. We don't have that here like we had it back then. So my question to you is how– what– obviously your mother could speak for herself, but she's not here. But what made her want to put such a renowned type of business in our community for our people, make that sacrifice [transition] –here and move forward in that endeavor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1035.0,1112.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Well I think, again, you have to look at the timing of the situation. This was before a lot of the big box retail. H– H-E-B [regional grocery store chain] didn't have a strong pharmacy presence. There w– Walgreens and CVS and it was just– Eckerds, but I think that was a fledgling competitor at the time. So even if she would have kept her business, I don't know if she'd still be open today just because the pharmacy business is so difficult now, with the larger retailers, the CVS’s and the Walgreens and the H-E-B’s and Targets and– and Walmarts competing. She actually works at Walmart right now for her– her off time. So she–","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1112.0,1159.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: As a pharmacist?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1159.0,1160.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Yeah, during her vacation. So she's the president of a University, of Stillman College, in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. But whenever she has time off, she– just for her vacations, she works one or two days to keep her license and to be able to practice as a pharmacist just in case she wants to keep that option open later on down the line. So she'll– she’ll work a couple days a year, probably 10 or 15. But it's really just to keep her license in the state with that practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1160.0,1187.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: So– so I mean, that's interesting information to know. So– so do you think that there needs to be a– I guess a change in the mindset on what type of businesses we– we should pursue that can be sustained in the African American community? Because I know we said we want to have the doctors and the lawyers and the pharmacists and all these different things. But like you said, when you compete with H-E-B, you’re competing with CVS, or you're competing with the trial lawyers and things like that, is it realistic that we can replicate and duplicate those type of successes now in our communities?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1187.0,1224.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: I think we have to look at where the real growth is happening throughout our country, but also throughout our city. We're one of the leaders in cybersecurity, so an African American owned cybersecurity firm on the East Side would be huge. An African American owned biomedical research firm would be huge. But– they have biomedical researchers and cyber warriors here in San Antonio, but the entrepreneurial nature hasn't– hasn't shown its way to the East Side. So those are the jobs of the future because we know those industries are growing by the billions of dollars every year. So there's so much market to grow. Whereas in– in a pharmacy or in the legal profession, you're kind of fighting over the scraps that are there, because there's just so much out there that you have to work against now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1224.0,1273.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: Excellent. So we've– we’ve learned so much about Councillor Warrick, and his family, and his past. The one thing we haven't mentioned is that by trade, he's an architect. Now of course he is the CEO of a nonprofit and he helps disabled people in our community find, you know, living wage work and– and so they can just be prosperous and– and be successful. But with that– that background, I know you have a, you know, an eye for the– the different architecture in our community. You named Dignowity Hills, you named the Denver Heights as areas, St. Paul Square as areas where, you know, you were born, where you were raised, where your family migrated in those areas. And I know you– you aren't the first one, the last architect to come out of the East Side that's black. So– so if you can identify some places. I know, one of the places you live in was– was a dynamic piece by an African American architect, if I'm not mistaken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1273.0,1335.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Well, the renovations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1335.0,1338.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: Okay, the renovations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1338.0,1339.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Yeah, because the original architect was actually a British architect, Alfred Giles. But there's some history in that. So the Giles Elmendorf house, which was built in 1884 on the corner of Hackberry and Burleson, was built by the same person who helped with the Bexar County Courthouse. He did the barracks at Fort Sam Houston, the Market Square, the convent at Incarnate Word University. So a lot of the major buildings, then a number of courthouses in the– in the outlying counties– I think the Gonzales County courthouse and– and some of the other courthouses in the outlying areas. But about– and the Steves house in King William, so a number of the homes have, between the 1860s and– and early 1900s. But the Giles Elmendorf house was a raised cottage built with solid stone, and potentially some of the stones may actually come from the Alamo. So if you look at what happened, the stones were just laying there as rubble for that, you know, first 70-80 years after the battle took place in 1836. And people were, instead of actually quarrying stone, they were able to carry a stone and bring it back to different houses. So a couple of the houses in the community with the right age are actually looking at some DNA testing to see– or not DNA, but some dating, some carbon dating testing, to see if some of those stones from their homes, potentially are the same stones that were used in the walls of the– of the Alamo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1339.0,1429.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: So just as far as– and my apologies, I wasn’t kind of clear on my– on my– my question, what I was trying to get to. But as far as these different communities that we're in right now, that are still considered historic East Side, historic African American communities, is there any, you know, Black designed architecture in our community that we should be aware of, that maybe we not know we passed that building every day or that structure every day, and that was, you know, designed or built by– by African Americans?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1429.0,1458.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Well no– Norcell Haywood was a prominent African American architect, went to the University of Texas, and graduated. His ties to Porter Dillard, who's not originally from San Antonio, but worked with Norcell on a number of projects, as well as my aunt, Nettie Hinton, who went to school with Norcell who was the first African American from San Antonio to graduate from the University of Texas. So I believe Norcell was from Austin. But he created a couple of buildings throughout the community. I’m trying to think, outside of– I would like to say that the [Dr.] Frank Bryant center, the East Side Medical Center, was– the architect was African American. And then of course, Norcell’s former office on WW White [Road] was African American. I can't think of any other sites. But no, there's definitely a lot of history here in San Antonio that– that sometimes gets overlooked.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1458.0,1516.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: All right, and we’ll– we'll close out with this. Well not close out, but this will be our last question. You mentioned St. Paul Square. And for those who don't know, St. Paul Square was predominantly, if not 100% Black owned at some point. And, you know, you had your hotels, you had your juke joints, you had your eateries, you had all different types of things.F– for those who don't know, who may, you know, pass by Sunset Station and area, you know, Tony G’s [Soul Food Restaurant] is there now and Ash and Smoke [restaurants], but don't know the history, give us that 90 second history that you know of, and that's been shared with you, for St. Paul square.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1516.0,1556.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Yeah, if you look at the historic St. Paul's Church, which is called The Spire now, that's where– that's the oldest African American church here in San Antonio, just celebrated it’s 175th anniversary. And around that church grew a community based on the African American community that migrated after slavery, and tied into the railroads, which are right there, where a lot of African Americans worked on the railroads, whether they were porters, or they worked to build railroads and maintain them. And around that community, that's really where the Black growth grew and then it grew further east in San Antonio, east and also south. So if you look at where Hemisfair Park is right now, even though that's not traditionally the East Side, because the freeway intersected, before the freeway existed, that was all one community. And there was a large African American population there, where the Victoria Courts used to be, and– and where the– some of the park is now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1556.0,1621.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: Excellent. So is there any last– any last tidbits you want to share with the TAAN community? You know, African American history, past, fu– past, present, and even future, you know, going– going into this 300 year anniversary, this tricentennial?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1621.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: Well I think the future of San Antonio is very bright for African Americans. I think we have to do our best as locals to really sell our city, because we're still not on the top 10 list for African Americans that are leaving college or young millennials, so that growth number. They're still moving to Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, LA, DC, where there's some value in San Antonio, because of the affordability, because of the less than 4% unemployment, because of the– the great schools in a lot of places. So there's really great opportunity in San Antonio, we want folks to move here. And we want folks to really tell the story of San Antonio, not just as a tourist town, or as a town with a bunch of history, but with a bright future and a bright future for Blacks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1636.0,1689.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tyrone Darden: Excellent. We want to thank you guys, again, for tuning in. This is Tyrone Darden from the African Amer– African American Network. We've been here with Councilman Alan Warrick, he shared his voice, there’ll be 299 more, and I hope you stay tuned in. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1689.0,1705.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323/transcript/68709/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alan Warrick: There's a huge value of African Americans knowing their history. Again, we're the descendants of kings and queens throughout Africa, but also great African Americans here in the state of Texas, and even in this city. We have people that marched with Martin Luther King, we have people that– that ran the Apollo Theater, all coming from San Antonio, Texas. And we have a future generation of folks that are going to make a huge impact that are from this beautiful city, a lot of them from the East Side of San Antonio. From college presidents to astronauts, we've made huge impacts in many categories. But if the young people don't know about that, then they're unable to capitalize and grow off that legacy and understand their true value as– as people in this society. So we have to focus on telling our story, telling it to young people so that they can have their own stories to tell the future generation. My advice to anyone looking to make an impact on their community is one, find what aspect of the community that you want to impact. And once you know what that is, work 10 times harder than you think you have to. Whatever that goal is, it's going to take 10 times the effort, 10 times the achievement than you had to– that you think that you have to put in and– and multiply that and you're going to see the benefit and the community's going to see you as a real change maker and a promise keeper and somebody that they can trust in order to help the community for the present and the future. My name is Alan Warrick and you're watching TAAN TV.\n\nTranscribed by https://otter.ai","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131069/file/245323#t=1705.0,1798.1964"}]}]}]}