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Cole Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[]},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2807/collection_resources/140403/file/259559/transcript/85948","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Bennie L. Cole Transcript - Raw Text [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2807/collection_resources/140403/file/259559/transcript/85948/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Transcript\r\nFor\r\nBennie L. Cole\r\n04/06/2018\r\n\r\n\r\n00:00:00\r\nReed: This is Bernetiae Reed. I'm here in San Antonio. It's April 6th, 2018. I'm here with Cole Cole and I would like to start with him introducing himself.\r\nCole: I'm Bennie L. Cole.\r\nReed: And when were you born?\r\nCole: I was born August 5th, 1942 in Brenham, Texas.\r\nReed: And -- in where Texas?\r\nCole: In Brenham, Texas.\r\nReed: Brenham, Texas. And tell me who your parents are.\r\nCole: My parents are Reverend L. C. and Mary Moore, L.C. Cole and my --\r\nReed: It's okay, take your time. Do you need water or anything?\r\nCole: No, I have this --\r\n00:01:00\r\nReed: Take your time. Do you want me to turn it off?\r\nCole: Yes, ma'am.\r\n[pause]\r\nReed: Okay, we are back. Mr. Cole was telling me about his parents, their names.\r\nCole: Rev. L.C. Cole.\r\nReed: What did L.C. stand for?\r\nCole: That was just a nickname. That was initials.\r\nReed: And how about your mother?\r\nCole: My mother, Mae Ella. Mae Ella.\r\nReed: Mae Ella. And what was her maiden name?\r\nCole: Harris.\r\nwere born.\r\n00:02:00\r\nCole: They were born in Washington County.\r\nReed: Texas?\r\nCole: Yes, Washington County, Texas.\r\n(inaudible) -- Brenham, is that a county?\r\nCole: Yes. Brenham is Washington on the Brazos.\r\nReed: Is that the county seat of Washington?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nyour paternal line?\r\n00:03:00\r\nhigh school that I graduated from, Pickard High School.\r\nReed: And that's in Brenham?\r\nCole: That's in Brenham, Texas.\r\nReed: So, you were born in Brenham and what were the schools that you attended?\r\nCole: I attended from the first grade through the third grade, West End Elementary.\r\nReed: West End?\r\nCole: West End.\r\nReed: West End Elementary.\r\nthat I graduated from.\r\n00:04:00\r\nReed: What year did you graduate from high school?\r\nCole: 1961.\r\nReed: And how about -- you said -- you told me you had a scholarship.\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Was that at this point?\r\nCole: To play football.\r\nReed: What happened?\r\nCole: I broke my leg.\r\nReed: How did you break your leg?\r\ndecided to come into the Air Force.\r\nReed: How long did your -- how long that lay you up? Was that your freshman year?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: And that was where you had the scholarship to?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: What was it again?\r\nCole: Colorado College in Colorado Springs, Colorado.\r\n00:05:00\r\nthe military.to go into the Air Force. I didn't want to go into the Army. I had a lot of\r\nReed: And that was during the Vietnam War?\r\nCole: Yes, it was.\r\nin that regard?\r\nCole: Well, I did some flying. I was on flying status. I flew as a loadmaster.\r\nReed: You flew as a loadmaster?\r\n00:06:00\r\nCole: Yes, ma'am.\r\nReed: In Vietnam?\r\nCole: No, I was never stationed in Vietnam. I used to fly into Vietnam.\r\nyou end up flying into Vietnam?to Sheppard Air Force Base. And they said -- they took a group of us and was --\r\nReed: A loadmaster -- do you load ammunition or what does that mean?\r\n00:07:00\r\nwhen the airplane takes off, we go with the airplane.\r\nReed: So, you ended up being in airplanes that went into Vietnam.\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Did you see the effect of bombs being dropped or anything?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\ntell about your experience in Vietnam?very bad.\r\n00:08:00\r\nthat experience that you had that you don't really want to talk about but you\r\nCole: Well, in the future, I don't think we can get any worse than it was in Vietnam.\r\nReed: So, that was a traumatic experience.\r\nCole: Yes, it was. It was very traumatic.\r\nReed: Was it the effect on the Vietnamese or on your fellow soldiers?\r\nCole: We lost too many soldiers over there.\r\nReed: I'll leave that be. If there's something that you wanna say, just let me know.\r\nCole: Thank you.\r\n00:09:00\r\ntime. You're appreciated. And I wanted to see -- I don't know -- tell me theWright-Patterson Air Force Base and they had organizations up there that decided\r\n00:10:00\r\nReed: So, they had people that were helping -- that recognized talent, I imagine.\r\nCole: Right, right.\r\nReed: And they saw that you had potential for becoming a pilot?\r\nhave a long, long, long and very very good history as far as the military is\r\nReed: What was your experience as a Tuskegee Airman?\r\nbecause we had to live up to what the Tuskegee Airmen stood for. Andactually go to Tuskegee, Alabama?flying at Moton Field, I've been there.\r\nReed: Did you meet any of the pilots that --\r\nCole: Oh yes.\r\nReed: Tell me who you met.\r\n00:12:00\r\nCole: I --\r\nthat mug. I don't know many of their names but I've seen some of the, you know,\r\nCole: Right.\r\nyou think of some of the ones that you met?\r\nCole: I'm trying to think.\r\nReed: That's okay. We can come back to it.\r\n00:13:00\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: What type of planes did you fly?\r\nflew on. I flown C-118, C-54. Those airplanes were -- we called them\r\nReed: Okay. They had two propellers or four?\r\nCole: Four.\r\nany aerobatics?\r\nCole: No.\r\n00:14:00\r\nthere's a specific branch, the number for the military -- the Tuskegee Airmen\r\nCole: No.\r\nReed: No, there isn't?\r\nwas in a segregated -- but when I came in, the Air Force was integrated.\r\nReed: And so, there were white Tuskegee Airmen at the same time that you were serving?\r\n00:15:00\r\nCole: Yes, but some of them chose not to be, not to belong.\r\nReed: Why is that, do you think?\r\nCole: I don't know. Because knowing the history, it was a known black Force.\r\nReed: Did you experience any racial incidents in the military?\r\nCole: Yes, yes.\r\nReed: Tell me about that.\r\nCole: Oh, please.\r\nReed: You don't want to?\r\nCole: No.\r\nexperience any racism there?\r\n00:16:00\r\ntown to go to my high school.\r\nReed: And were you tormented at all?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: What did they do to you as you were walking?\r\nCole: They used to call me names that was not favorable.\r\nReed: What did your father do for a living?\r\nCole: My father was a minister and he also worked for the city of Brenham.\r\nReed: What did he do for the city?\r\nCole: He hauled trash.\r\nReed: Okay. And how about what church did he -- was he a minister for?\r\nCole: A Baptist church, Mount Seriah.\r\nReed: Mount Seriah?\r\nCole: Mount Seriah Baptist Church\r\n00:17:00\r\nReed: Mount Seriah? Am I butchering that name? Something like that.\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Well. We can find it.\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: And did your mother work outside of the home?\r\nCole: Yes, she worked for the president of Blinn Junior College.\r\nReed: As a domestic worker?\r\nCole: Domestic work.\r\nReed: And is there something about Brenham that you want to talk about or an experience?\r\neducation because the African-American teachers, they looked out for us.\r\n00:18:00\r\nthough we were not treated that way. We were treated bad.\r\nReed: And I think we hear that often about how we excelled prior to integration --\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: -- because of the teachers.\r\nCole: Yes, yes.\r\nReed: And did your teachers also know your parents?\r\ndiscipline. It was very -- because if I did anything wrong in school, when you got home, your parents also.\r\nCole: Yes, you also got punished.\r\nReed: And then, with your father being a minister, you probably heard a sermon.\r\nCole: Yes, yes, yes.\r\nsiblings also?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: What was your family like?\r\n00:20:00\r\nonly brother, he passed also. My youngest sister, she's still -- she teaches\r\nReed: What's her name?\r\nCole: Gloria.\r\nReed: Gloria Cole?\r\nCole: Gloria Wills.\r\nReed: She married a Wills?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: W-I-L-L-S?\r\nCole: Yes, ma'am.\r\nReed: And so, we've gotten to the military. Where did you serve as a Tuskegee Airman?\r\n00:21:00\r\nForce Base.\r\nReed: Hickam?\r\nTurkey. Incirlik, Turkey.\r\nReed: Incirlik, Turkey.\r\nCole: Colorado, Peterson Air Force Base.\r\nReed: Colorado, Peterson Air Force Base.\r\nCole: Chanute Air Force Base.\r\nReed: Chanute?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Where is that?\r\nCole: Rantoul, Illinois.\r\nReed: You were in the service for how -- you were there for 24 years?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\n00:22:00\r\nyou teach pilots?\r\nCole: No, I was a loadmaster. I taught a lot of loadmasters.\r\nReed: In Vietnam or here?\r\nCole: No, wherever they went.\r\nReed: That was prior to this or this is all part of the same service?\r\nCole: This is part of my service.\r\nReed: 'Cause you went into that in 1961, that's right.\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: So, when did you actually become a pilot?\r\nCole: I am not a pilot.\r\nReed: You are not a pilot, you're a loadmaster.\r\nCole: Right, right.\r\n00:23:00\r\nReed: Okay. And tell me -- in having the -- well when did you get married?\r\nThe first time I got married, I got married in Port Arthur, Texas.\r\nReed: And when was that and what was her name?\r\nCole: Bobbie Cole.\r\nReed: Bobbie Cole?\r\nCole: Bobbie Watkins.\r\nReed: Bobbie Watkins Cole. And what year did you get married?\r\nCole: This was in 1960. We got married in 1960. 1960.\r\nReed: Before your service?\r\nCole: No, no. We got married in 1968.\r\n00:24:00\r\nReed: And did you have children from your first marriage?\r\nCole: One son.\r\nReed: What's his name?\r\nCole: Cole L. Cole.\r\nReed: Cole L. Cole.\r\nCole: The second.\r\nReed: The second [Cole L. Cole. II]. And I know he wears that name proudly.\r\nCole: Yes. He lives in Houston.\r\nReed: And when did you meet Edith?\r\nCole: I met Edith in the early '70s.\r\nReed: And when did you get married?\r\nCole: We got married in 19--. We've been married for 30 something years.\r\nReed: Do you have children by this second marriage?\r\nCole: No.\r\nReed: And tell me, do you have grandchildren?\r\n00:25:00\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: How many do you have?\r\nCole: I have four.\r\nReed: And any great-grandchildren yet?\r\nCole: Yes, I have. My oldest grandson has a couple.\r\nmade you leave then and what did you do?\r\nCole: I decided to retire and then I started working as an instructor.\r\nReed: What did you -- what type of instruction did you do?\r\n00:26:00\r\nCole: Well, I did -- I did --\r\nWhat type of instruction did you do?\r\nCole: I did organizational development consultant. I worked here in San Antonio.\r\nReed: Were there particular companies that you did work for or it was a private --\r\nCole: It was the Air Force. I went to work for the Air Force.\r\n00:27:00\r\nReed: And have you stayed connected with the Air Force?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: So, you have a long military history.\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nthat full-time.\r\nCole: Full-time.\r\nReed: And when did you retire from that position or are you still doing consulting?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2807/collection_resources/140403/file/259559#t=0.0,1.0"},{"id":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2807/collection_resources/140403/file/259559/transcript/85948/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as a civilian and when I went over to Randolph\r\nReed: What year was that?\r\nCole: 1989.\r\n00:28:00\r\nin 1989, what you've been doing.trip to the Super Bowl in Miami.\r\nReed: Now, tell me how you win a trip to the Super Bowl.\r\nThey had a drawing and they pulled my name.\r\nReed: Who was playing?\r\nCole: Miami and Atlanta.\r\nReed: And who were you for?\r\n00:29:00\r\nCole: I wasn't for nobody.\r\nReed: You were just there.\r\nCole: I was there. They flew us non-stop to Miami.\r\nReed: So, you got the royal treatment.\r\nCole: Yes, we did. We did. We did.\r\nReed: You were flown by the military?\r\nCole: No, by American Airlines. We got -- can we stop right now?\r\nReed: Sure.\r\n[pause]\r\nReed: Okay, we're going down memory lane for the Super Bowl.\r\nCole: And these are the sponsors.\r\nyou during the Super Bowl or you got it later?\r\n00:30:00\r\nCole: No, this was done after the Super Bowl.\r\nReed: They sent that to you?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Oh, that was special. So, I see the both of you right there.\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Did they meet you at the airport?\r\nairplane here and flew to Dallas. From Dallas, we fly to Miami.fantastic experiences were you talking about?\r\n00:31:00\r\nthe school board.\r\nReed: How did your involvement with the school system start?\r\nCole: Over a period of years, when my son was in elementary school here in San Antonio.\r\nReed: When did you move to San Antonio? Maybe, I missed -- I don't think I asked that.\r\nCole: I came to San Antonio in the middle '70s.\r\nReed: And you worked out of Kelly, did you say that?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Okay, I guess I did hear that part. And so, when was your son born?\r\n00:32:00\r\nCole: My son was born November 22, 1974.\r\nReed: 1974. And you said you were involved in the school system. Was it with the PTA?\r\nhave what they call \"California system\" where's that they just separated\r\n00:33:00\r\nReed: So, they could play with kids like -- is that like a Montessori? No.\r\ntrouble 'cause he was playing with the other kids. But what I told the teacher\r\n00:34:00\r\nbrought it up \"Well, well --\" me having --\r\nReed: Some emotional?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Hard adjustment?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: And you had to support him through that thing?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: And that is special that you were there to get involved.\r\none of the instructors that I went all the way to the school board in-regards to\r\n00:35:00\r\nmy son don't need any Ritalin. The only thing that he needs is, he needs someone\r\nReed: Good for you!\r\nsaid, \"No, I'm going -- \" That's how I became very involved with thewanted your son to go on Ritalin?\r\n00:37:00\r\nCole: Oh, it was the school nurse. I don't -- and the super--\r\nReed: The superintendent?\r\nAnd I went to the superintendent and told him what was going on and the school\r\nhis mom and I got divorced and he's going through some trauma.\"\r\n00:38:00\r\nReed: And at that point, well, what grade was he in? Do you know?\r\nCole: He was in the third grade.\r\nReed: And did you see that a lot of students were on Ritalin?\r\nCole: Some of the kids, yes.\r\nReed: And how did your involvement with the PTA continue after that point?\r\n00:39:00\r\nand see what was going on in this school.\r\nAnd this is how I became involved with the school.\r\nReed: And did your involvement just stay with that one school?\r\nCole: No.\r\nReed: Tell me.\r\nCole: When he left elementary, he went to Pease Middle School.\r\nReed: Pease? P-E-A --\r\nPease Middle School [inaudible]. I talked to them. When he left Pease, he went\r\n00:40:00\r\nJay High School. That's how I became very involved with my son's school activity\r\nReed: What does your son do now?\r\nCole: My son, right now he owns a barbershop. He's a barber.\r\nReed: In where?\r\nCole: In Houston, Texas.\r\nReed: In Houston. He owns the barbershop?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nwonderful. Tell me about your other involvement in San Antonio. Did you -- are\r\n00:41:00\r\nCole: I used to be but because of health, I have cut all this out.\r\nin the city. So, if you can give me an idea.\r\nCole: Well, in the city, I used to be on the city --\r\nReed: The city council?\r\nCole: No.\r\n00:42:00\r\nReed: Any board? Were you on a board?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nlooking at all the plaques on the wall. This is just incredible. Tell me how you\r\nCole: Well, that was my passion. That's where I went --\r\nReed: So, even in the military you would play golf?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\n00:43:00\r\njust get some of the --\r\nCole: I played in Tuskegee and the Legends and Heroes Golf Tournament.\r\nAntonio Tuskegee Airmen, Incorporated 5th Annual Legends and Heroes Golf Classic\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Were you always noted for a long drive?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Is that sort of like Tiger Woods?\r\nCole: I don't know about Tiger Woods.\r\nReed: Have you met Tiger Woods?\r\n00:44:00\r\nCole: No, I haven't.\r\nReed: Who were your heroes of golf?\r\nCole: Charlie Sifford.\r\nReed: Charlie S--?\r\nCole: Sifford.\r\nReed: Why him?\r\nCole: He was the first black man to play in the -- it was all white.\r\nReed: Did you meet him?\r\nCole: No, I didn't.\r\nyou play?\r\nCole: I tried to play at least three or four times a week.\r\nyou? Have you been to the White House?\r\n00:45:00\r\nCole: No, I haven't.\r\nwere you -- when you were recognized for the United States Air Force, what was\r\nCole: I was retired. I was retired. It was a great honor.\r\nReed: Where did you go to be recognized?\r\nCole: It was in Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio.\r\nReed: What did they do? That's the headquarters of the Tuskegee Airmen?\r\nCole: No, just Air Force Logistics Command.\r\nReed: Air Force Logistics Command?\r\nCole: Yes, ma'am.\r\nReed: And when you were recognized, what is that ceremony like?\r\n00:46:00\r\nI guess my.\r\nReed: We can scan those later if you want the museum to have some of your pictures.\r\nCole: Okay.\r\nReed: Also, tell me what rank you were at when you retired.\r\nCole: I was at Master Sergeant.\r\ntraining. Did you take recruits? Do Master Sergeants take recruits?\r\nCole: No, no, no.\r\nReed: I don't know the military too well, sorry.\r\n00:47:00\r\nunder you made sure that they did that job. Could we turn this off?\r\nReed: What was this occasion and who is this man?\r\nCole: That's when I was getting ready to retire.\r\nReed: Okay. [His wife talking in the background.] Thank you.\r\nThat was when you were getting ready to retire?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: And they were pinning something on you?\r\nCole: Yes, they were pinning me on -- pinning the Meritorious Service Medal.\r\nsome of this and get that recorded for the museum.\r\n00:48:00\r\nwould like to talk about? I'm sure I haven't covered some things. Does that need\r\nCole: No, that's my wife's, AKA.\r\na field day scanning some of these things.\r\nWhen did you have your stroke? You said in November?\r\n00:49:00\r\nCole: This past year.\r\nwould like to say about your experience in the military or in the school system\r\nCole: The city of San Antonio?\r\nReed: Mm-hmm.\r\nCole: I've been on so many committees in the City of San Antonio.\r\n00:50:00\r\nDistrict, that's your retirement, Alamo College Capital Improvement Program.\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: The ACCD Citizens Bond Oversight Committee.\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: So, it sounds like you did a lot of consultant type, advisory type work.\r\n00:51:00\r\nCole: Yes, I did.\r\nReed: Is there a project that was your favorite project?\r\nCole: The new college [inaudible].\r\nReed: The new college out by --\r\nCole: Alamo Community College.\r\nReed: How were you involved with that?\r\nCole: I was part of -- I was on that board that --\r\nReed: Created it?\r\nCole: Yes, the groundbreaking. I wish I -- I don't know where --\r\nlater. So, that's one of the things that you're really proud of.\r\nCole: Yes.\r\n00:52:00\r\nas needing Ritalin?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: What are you doing in that regard?\r\nthat he or she needs to be on this medication, they need to be evaluated.\r\nReed: Has that been implemented in the school system?\r\nreally hurt us because I'll tell you one thing, rather than --\r\n00:53:00\r\nReed: Tell me. I have someone else that is interested in that too.\r\nget around dealing with the kids. And that's one way they've tried to get aroundteachers that cared.\r\nCole: Yes, yes.\r\nright now?\r\n00:54:00\r\nis get over the problem. They talking about let me get this -- if I got a young\r\nReed: Now tell me how a child can be promoted to another grade when they can't read.\r\nCole: Thank you.\r\nReed: I don't understand it.\r\n00:55:00\r\nCole: I don't understand it either. It breaks my heart.\r\nthe school board or whatnot, what have you been pushing or what has been your battle?we don't -- [long pause]\r\nReed: A lot of times --\r\n00:56:00\r\nsmooth it over. And we just want to --preserving African American history and heritage?\r\nCole: No, I haven't.\r\nAntonio African American Community Archives and Museum and it's an effort towe let you get a pause from all of my questions?black man, the black lady.\r\n00:58:00\r\nAnd I say doing integration, they don't care. Let's get this person out of here.have to keep up the fight.\r\nCole: Yes, yes, yes.\r\nReed: Thank you, Cole Cole.\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Are you ready for me to turn this thing off?\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: I have my order from the Master Sergeant. Is that Master Sergeant?\r\n00:59:00\r\nCole: Yes.\r\nReed: Okay, Master Sergeant Cole.\r\nCole: Yes, thank you.\r\n[End of Audio]\r\nDuration: 59 minutes 8 seconds\r\nNOTES\r\n1. Kelly Air Force Base officially closed in 2001. It is now known as Kelly Field.\r\n2. Randolph Air Force Base, now known as Joint Base San Antonio-Randolph is a United States Air Force Base located in Universal City, Texas just northeast of San Antonio, Texas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2807/collection_resources/140403/file/259559#t=1.0,3335.533"}]}]}]}