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My name is Jeremy Carrizales and with me is Dr. Archie Wortham. How are you doing, doctor?\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  0:10  \r\nHow are you doing, Jeremy?\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales 0:11  \r\nI'm doing good. You doing alright today?\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham 0:12  \r\nWonderful, wonderful\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales 0:13  \r\nExcellent, excellent. So– so let me ask you, where were you born?\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  0:16  \r\nI was born in Columbus, Ohio a few years ago. \r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  0:22\r\n[laughs] Only a few, right? \r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham 0:24\r\nOnly a few. Yes.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales 0:26  \r\nOkay. And what brought you here to San Antonio?\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  0:28  \r\nThe real thing is a– American Airlines. But no, I was in the military, retired military, and came here in ‘99. And raised two boys, married for 34 years. And I've been an educator since 1976.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales 0:48  \r\nAnd where did you first start in 1976?\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  0:51  \r\nWell, I started in Germany teaching there, teaching speech. That's what I do. And I've continued to do that. The entire time I was in the military, off and on I would teach. And I've taught from kindergarten all the way up to the college level. And as far as the students are concerned, I much prefer those adult– young adults. I’ve been in higher education for the last 40 years.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  1:14  \r\nOkay, okay. And where are you currently–?\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  1:16  \r\nI’m a part of Alamo Community College. I teach at Northeast Lakeview [College], I’m a professor of speech there. And I've been there since the college opened. And I've taught for all of the Alamo Colleges, St Philip's, Palo Alto, Northwest, Northwest Vista San Antonio College, and also for UTSA [University of Texas at San Antonio] and Trinity [University]. And St. Mary's [University]. \r\n\r\n\r\nUnknown Speaker  1:39  \r\nOkay, okay. And where did you go to school when you were out in Columbus, Ohio?\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  1:42  \r\nWell, I was raised– I was born in Columbus, Ohio, but early on, Mom moved to Tennessee. So I was raised in West Tennessee, near Memphis. I went to high school in a segregated high school, Frayser High School, graduated in 1968. Pretty soon, you’ll know how young I am. And after I– well, I was very fortunate that I have videos– I got a scholarship from the Frayser High School to go the University of Tennessee at Knoxville. And so that's where I went, did my undergraduate and graduate work there and got into the army, got commission. And as I said, the rest is history. And then subsequently, after moving back here, and shortly after retired, and I completed my doctorate at the other UT, University of Texas at Austin.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  2:28  \r\nSo when you were teaching out in Germany, did that kind of transition you into, like, knowing exactly what you wanted to do for the, you know, as a future?\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  2:36  \r\nI think I've always had a propensity for teaching. I just love what I get out of it, I get more out of it than I think I put in it. But yeah, after I completed my masters at the University of Tennessee and moved on to Germany, I started teaching speech there. And yeah, I really liked that. Particularly– and there was so very sort of isolated– so most of the people that I taught were young troops or family members. And then when we moved from– from Germany, I was still single, I moved to Chicago. And I taught there for a couple universities when I was in Chicago. And then met my wife while I was there. And then we went to Indianapolis, and I taught at the social support Institute there. And then we went back to Germany, and taught there, and then came back to San Antonio, and, like I said. I've been here for 27 years. \r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  3:28  \r\nOkay. And do you happen to know any German? I know a little bit.\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  3:34  \r\n[Speaks in German] Yes, I know a little bit. Enough to get in trouble.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  3:42  \r\nSo is that, what you just said, is that, “I know a little bit?” \r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  3:44\r\nThat's correct. \r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  3:45\r\nOkay. I know ich– I think I’m saying it wrong, but we’ll see. [speaks in German]\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham 3:51  \r\nOh, well, I love beer too.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales 3:54  \r\nYeah, so yeah.\r\n\r\n\r\nUnknown Speaker  3:55  \r\nWere you in military?\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  3:57  \r\nNo, I wasn't. I just had some friends that were German, and they kind of told me– they told me, “Hey, if you– you’re gonna speak German, you need to know how to order a beer [inaudible]” So, yeah, yeah. So let's go into your next question here. So I'm assuming– what was your– what was your major when you were in– over there at university?\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  4:15  \r\nI was a theatre major undergraduate and graduate, and then my doctorate is in community curriculum settings. And particularly, the nature of my dissertation was the importance of paternal father involvement in communicating the value of education to their sons. As I mentioned before, I have two sons. But like I said, I've always wanted to teach and, and I just kind of gravitated– I was a part of the College of Education at the University of Texas at Austin. \r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  4:41  \r\nOkay. And do you have any involvement with the community? I know you said– talking about–\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  4:45  \r\nYeah, I’ve had quite an extensive amount of involvement. I worked with the Cherice Cochrane Foundation. Dear friend of mine, just passed away this morning as a matter of fact, [unknown name] Williams. He was quite involved with the NAACP. I did stuff with ACT-SO [Achievement Program of the NAACP]. And then, of course, when my sons were going to school– the School of Science and Technology, I've had connections with that. I teach a dual credit class there for 10th, and 11th, and 12th graders and– with the local ISD’s [Independent School Districts]. Yeah, so I’ve– and I’ve done several things for various churches. And just recently, I was up in Austin, and we did a Texas student Summer Institute, which is part of Project MALES that focuses on males of color, African American, Hispanic. And I did a presentation up there on the importance of getting into the room, and how one gets into it, and what you do once you're in the room. And then sort of the warning of, if you don't give back after you have gone through those levels, then you can't expect people who follow you to find an easy path.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  5:59  \r\nThat kind of– that path can be guided through– through your father, and you kind of recently– \r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  6:04  \r\nWell, yeah, it can be the fathers or mentors. And one of the things that– I teach a male’s issues class, once a semester. I used to teach a males only class but there was a big hoopla about that. You know, some of the women were in arms, since, “Why don’t they have a females only class?” I said, “Well, find a female to teach it.” But so much of the education process is that– helping people walk, find where they want to go, ‘cause if you have no idea where you're going how do you know when you get there? And then the other thing, too, is as far as the journey is concerned, and the thing that we found, particularly with those young men who have aspirations to become CEOs, presidents, broadcasters, they see somebody like you or somebody like me, and they think well, “Oh, my goodness, you've already gotten there, you don't– you haven't had any difficulties.” And then that's when I share my story. And then a lot of them want to hear that, they want to know about the middle journey. You know, like, one of the things I share with my students is that, you know, back in 2004, Steve Jobs made the comment that he was the only person he knew who had lost a quarter of a billion dollars in a year. Then I tell them, “Three years later,” and I hold up my iPhone, “look what happened.” So– and I tell him about me flunking my qualifying exams because they struggle understanding they are not the only ones who are going through it. But sometimes you have to go through it to get what it is that’s on the other side.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  7:34  \r\nIt’s– everybody's journey is different, and everybody's story is different. So for what we're doing here for 300 Voices in 300 Days, we want to hear your voice. And, you know, thank you for sharing your voice. And I want to know, why do you think it's important for people to share their voice and share their stories with others?\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  7:51  \r\nWell, you know, like I was alluding to, it's like a– you know, I grew up, as I mentioned to you, in the South, in Tennessee, went to a segregated high school. And I think today, what's going on in places like Ferguson and Charlottesville, Charleston, and what they've attempted to do in other places, is because those people like me who went through, somewhere along the way we forgot to share our stories. We forgot to say that I can remember the University of Tennessee 2% of the population– you had 25,000 students– only 400 people who were like me. And it's important for them to know that in spite of the fact of being the N-word that I didn't let that stand in my way. And part of that was because there were times, going back to my whole access, applicability, and ammunition, is that you– no matter how hard it is, you gotta find a way to get to the table. And then when you get to the table, you got to, you know, work your way into a position where not only people will listen to you, but they respect what you say. And that's like paying your dues. And then– then sharing your stories. That's what I'm doing right now. This is part of a warning, as far as to say, “Look, if you don't understand that education is important, If you don't understand that it's not, you know, anything that’s– it's if it's too easy, you know, you're not really– you don't have value on it.” So just because a teacher gave you a B that you deserved or flunked you because you didn't come to class, that's on you. That's not on them. But I remember getting an F, okay– a long time ago– but that didn't deter me. So to get back to your– to your question, I believe what your question was, is that they have to understand that they are not the only ones that are going through something. And the other thing too is the whole idea of collegiality. The whole idea of– You know, there's this book out called The Pact [The Pact: Three Young Men Make a Promise and Fulfill a Dream by Samson Davis, et. al.] about these three Black individuals who are struggling in New York, going through difficult times, but they made a pact that they will all become doctors. So they did. There’s a author– oh, God, I’m not sure if his name is Miro– whatever. He says, “Show me, your friends, and I'll show you your future.” [Quote from Dan Pena] So that's another thing too, you have a lot of people who– who associate with people that are either– they're like anchors. “Hey, we don't want you to move away.” And it really– they're getting kind of envious. And that's a struggle. You have struggles. I have students who talk about who their family– I had a student that I was teaching who wanted to go to Notre Dame [University], Notre– pretty sure it was Notre Dame [University of Notre Dame du Lac]. And her parents didn't want her to go there because she was– culturally, they just wanted to keep her up close to home. And so I– I taught her and I said, “Hey, look, I mean, if you can find a way to pay for it, okay, and you can lay the foundation for your parents to understand that, maybe they’ll let you go.” I says, “But by no means– do not go against what your parents tell you.” And so she was able to do research on it, and she was able to get accepted there and got a scholarship and she's getting ready to enter her sophomore year, as she’s there. And I had another student who's up in– who got a degree from MIT [Massachusetts Institute of Technology]. But they have to hear, you know, somebody like me, who grew up with a outhouse. Okay, never had a shower until I graduated– until I went to college. Didn– never had– you know, we had a bath, of course, you know– we’re not that grubby– but with a shower, you know. And of course being on a plane, that wasn't until I got to college. And people look at it and says, “Really?” You know.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  11:54  \r\nYeah, okay, that's– it's– it's all about where we've been, and how we get to where we want to be and like you said, having the mentorship, having, you know, the people behind you, not having bad anchors. I think, you know, and I think that's– that's very important. So you–\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham 12:07  \r\nThey can be either anchors or balloons.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  12:10  \r\nThere you go. Exactly. They’re gonna lift you up or– or take you down. Yeah. So you've been here again, for– in– in San Antonio for 27 years?\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  12:17\r\n27 years.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  12:18\r\nOkay, so you've kind of developed some ideas and thoughts about San Antonio– \r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham 12:21\r\nI love San Antonio. \r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  12:22\r\nOkay. Yeah, that's what I wanted to– \r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  12:24\r\nThe only thing I don't like about San Antonio– okay, well let's start there first.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  12:26\r\nSure, okay.\r\n\r\n\r\nArchie Wortham  12:27  \r\nThe only thing I don't like about San Antonio is the transportation system here. Having a– been in Europe for a while, I didn't drive until I was 32 years old. We didn't need to, because everywhere I needed to go I could either use my bike or the rapid transit system when I was in Chicago, the same thing. But culturally, I mean, there's so many different things that you can go to. The theater heres, the Art Institute, the library's fabulous, of course, and all the other stuff besides the Riverwalk. But the other thing that I– a lot of people don't realize is that San Antonio is really competitive toward the number of higher education institutions that are here. I mean, have you ever stopped to count them? I mean, we have five in Alamo Colleges, those are the community colleges. But look, you– you got UTSA which is a tier two [research school], you've got Texas A\u0026M in San Antonio. Then you go and you got St. Mary's, you got Our Lady of the Lake [University], you got Concordia [University] and the list could go– Wayland Baptist [University], and the list continues. And then of course, you’ve got Randolph Air Force Base is here, Fort Sam Houston. You know, BAMC [Brooke Army Medical Center], one of the premier institutions. And then of course, UTSA– UT Health Sciences, one of the premier research centers in the world. And then of course, for those people who would like to shop [laughs]. You know, if you're not necessarily here, you can always go up to San Marcos or whatever. And then Austin is not that far away, either. You know, it's a, I– you know, pretty good, well kept secret. And most people they know about San Antonio is of the Spurs, which is kind of indicative of San Antonio, because you get a gentleman that are there, very, very respectful. And there's a soul– an attitude of love and care in San Antonio. So yeah, I love it.\r\n\r\n\r\nJeremy Carrizales  14:14  \r\nI do too. I love– I love being here. You know, I'm glad you're here, you know, inspiring students with your stories and everything. So I want to thank you again, for coming in and visiting us here at TAAN [The African American Network] TV. You know, this is Dr. Archie Wortham, you know, thanks again for coming in and visiting with us. I'm Jeremy Carrizales, and we're signing off.\r\n\r\n\r\nTranscribed by https://otter.ai","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://saaacam.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2808/collection_resources/131064/file/245316#t=0.0,875.09333"}]}]}]}